In this episode of Task Force 7 Radio, Jamal Hartenstein, the IT Security Program Manager at KAI Partners talks about the important relationship between judges, lawyers, and cybersecurity professionals. He also delves into the difference between data privacy and data security and how both large and small organizations in both the public and private sectors approach implementing their Cyber Security programs differently. Jamal spoke about what his favorite blockchain projects and the current dilemmas with immutability versus the right to be forgotten, and the relationship these technologies have to data privacy and cyber security law. And Hosts George Rettas and Andrew Bonillo discussed with Jamal the importance of local law enforcement understanding current local, state, and federal cyber laws and what role cyber security plays in execution of local law enforcement, as well as the effects Executive Orders have on the Cyber Security Industry.